Vans All Weather Old Skool MTE Shoes Camo Black Size 8.5Please view all photos and ask any questions you may have before making the purchase.All Items are packaged carefully, with special care taken for fragile items. This is reflected in the shipping price.Feel free to shoot offers! We love them! Just make them reasonable, and you may get a great deal.Please note colors may vary in person. Different lighting is used to take photos and all screens items are viewed on can vary.Tape measure is for size reference only it is not included in the sale.